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  Cards Against Humanity

  by Simon in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  we bought this game for xmas because it looked funny and we like board / card games.. https://cardsagainsthumanity.com/.

  omg, it's freakin' hilarious!.

  it turns out too that we're really bad people.

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  Wasanelder Once

  Invited someone who was so sweet and such a great friend in the congregation once. She was excited to come play and have lunch with us. When she got there she said, "Oh, I play this game with my grandchildren." She clearly felt it was beneath her and we never heard from her again. lol Gotta keep that in mind. Go game night!
  
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  Watchtower crackdown on anointed expansion - are they reaching for a solution to the expanding numbers problem?

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  if this has been discussed i missed it.

  i think the january study watchtower is a concerted attempt to reduce the numbers claiming to be anointed.

  but i love the sneaky way they go about it this time.

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  Wasanelder Once

  Remember, if you drink unworthily you drink to your death!

  Choose poorly?
  
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  The really cool feeling of community within JWs

  by Phaedra in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i remember going out with other jws after the memorial.. small gatherings.. picnics at some local landmark.. the feeling of closeness, camaraderie, friendship with like minded people you could trust.. haven't experienced it since i left.. really miss that..

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  Wasanelder Once

  That feeling didn't last long when everyone would start back stabbing each other when out of the other person's presence. That was the first alarm for me. "Love among themselves"? Bogus.
  
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  Can my friend be DFd for dating a non witness and wanting to get married to him

  by cognitivedizzy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  dear all, need some advice .

  in my country one can get dfd for pretty much anything the bullies want to df you for.

  but is there any specific guidelines that state one can or cannot be dfd for marrying a non witness.

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  Wasanelder Once

  Again, dating and marrying a non witness is not officially "brazen conduct." Telling the elders to "F" off and doing it is different. It is considered a matter of the heart and not subject to willful misconduct. I was on a committee which met with a sister who ignored us and married a person I was studying with! (I thought he was a great guy and they would be good together but we HAD to uphold the WT view, its sucked.

  We told her the WT line of reasoning that only a person who has proved themselves to be a faithful brother was worthy. She proceeded to date him till he was baptized. NO reproof. He became an elder some few years after. Recently she was DF'd! Ironic.

  I get the 'devils advocate" Kate but DF is not an official stance. As so many have attested to here its merely a marking issue if it is blatant. Love you Kate, honest. Don't take this as an attack. I always look forward to your comments!
  
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  Years ago son raised a few years as a JW. Now struggles with depression

  by Check_Your_Premises in

  1. social
  2. family

  background:.

  i spent some time here awhile back as an unbelieving mate of a jw wife.

  i learned a lot, and was able to be supportive and understanding when she decided to leave the jw.. unfortunately, my son seems to have internalized many of the jw teachings.

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  Wasanelder Once

  I was pretty much like your son, minus suicidal thoughts. I lived out of the cult for 11 years before I returned for a 13 year run. Raised without the holidays etc. blah blah blah. Always looking over my shoulder for the angel of death. He just needs to be weened off the mindset. Let him see the alternative view now and again in a kind way. Point to the positive in life and how we are all the same no matter what religion we choose. Focus on how "non unique" the Witnesses are. I don't know how deep it runs in him but I am sure you are doing the best you can. Ultimately its up to him to see the BS for what it is. Just let him know its there without seeming like sour grapes. All the best!
  
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  If a year is really 365 1/4 days why 360 days to calculate 1914

  by blondie in

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  2. friends

  doesn't that throw off the date?.

  *** w51 6/15 p. 383 questions from readers ***.

  in establishing the length of the seven times of the gentiles, a time or year of 360 days is used, to give 2,520 days, which become 2,520 years when ezekiel 4:6 is applied.

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  Wasanelder Once

  I like turtles.
  
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  "Freeness of speech"

  by Wonderment in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  this was posted on another thread (http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/6040010839031808/christmas-tree-word-appreciation), but wondered about how others here would see this with one experience i had as an elder now as ex-jws.. when we were jw's we had to be extremely careful with what we said around the brotherhood.

  if someone said anything out of the ordinary, relationships among the involved were halted immediately, or were never the same afterwards.

  in this place, one can say almost anything without the fear of having a truck run over us.

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  We (speakers) were admonished that an alternate translation wasn't necessary since we had the best one available in the NWT, but, if we were to use any we must read the scripture from the NWT FIRST, followed by any other. This made it pointless. Now talks are less than 30 minutes long and there is no time for creativity. It's all part of controlling info and making the meeting tend towards more participation with the WT. To keep people involved and awake. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ didn't help, lol
  
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  Can my friend be DFd for dating a non witness and wanting to get married to him

  by cognitivedizzy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  dear all, need some advice .

  in my country one can get dfd for pretty much anything the bullies want to df you for.

  but is there any specific guidelines that state one can or cannot be dfd for marrying a non witness.

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  Wasanelder Once

  Kate, I'm not sure where you got that information about a "sister" being DF'd. The answer according to the WT is as follows:

  NO, not for simply marrying an unbeliever. Of course fornication is seen as a possibility if dating a filthy, sexually depraved "worldy" person, hence the panic. If they can avoid fornication before marriage there is no "SERIOUS" sin. As the Shepherding the Flock" book said:

  "Marrying an unbeliever is contrary to Bible principles. (Deut. 7:3,4, 1 Cor. 7:39, 2 Cor. 6:14, 15.)

  If a dedicated, baptized Christian marries and unbeliever, this would result in disqualification from all special privileges for the time being. (1st Tim. blah blah blah)"

  Of course Elders can do what they want but they would have to find something other than dating and marrying an unbeliever in and of itself. Somehow they might invent something to DF your friend for if they don't like her. The "brazen conduct" would not automatically be in play here if she simply marries the guy. She has the right to choose her mate even if it is seen as an unwise choice. She followed God's law in getting married. They cannot trump her right to choose a marriage mate considering she is going to reap the consequences of her choice to "unevenly yoke" with an unbeliever, not them.
  
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  If a year is really 365 1/4 days why 360 days to calculate 1914

  by blondie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  doesn't that throw off the date?.

  *** w51 6/15 p. 383 questions from readers ***.

  in establishing the length of the seven times of the gentiles, a time or year of 360 days is used, to give 2,520 days, which become 2,520 years when ezekiel 4:6 is applied.

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  Wasanelder Once

  There are "Human" years, "Dog" years, "Solar" years and Watchtower "Lunar-Solar" years. They are "overlapping" calendars. Pile it high baby!
  
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  New Field Service Format?

  by jw07 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it seems that hype is the only thing keeping jw.org alive and well these days (that and the money of suckers who continue to fall for it).. at meeting on monday, an elder announced "the faithful slave has seen it fit to change the format of our ministry in 2016, and more information will come".

  i guess the desired reaction is to get jws preoccupied with what those changes could possibly be, and if it means that the end is nearer or some crap.. with that said, i've been suckered into wanting to know what these 'changes' will be.

  does anyone know?

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  Wasanelder Once

  I do not know. My guess is that it will involve more electronic presentations and become mostly a case of point and preach via a tablet or phone. It's actually begun but they will probably refine it. Just brainstorming here.